
The Gray Divorce Podcast
Welcome to The Gray Divorce Podcast. Join Divorce Financial Advisor and Retirement Planning Counsellor Andrew Hatherley and guest experts as they help late life divorcees build the financial foundation for a meaningful life after divorce. There is life after divorce!
Episodes
77 episodes
The 3 Questions of Life-Centered Financial Planning After Divorce
What if your financial plan didn’t start with your money, but with your life? In Episode 77, Andrew dives into the transformative power of life-centered financial planning, especially for those navigating the challenges of gray divorce. Discove...
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Episode 77
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16:02

Working with a Realtor in Divorce with Lori Hawkins
Andrew is joined by Lori Hawkins, a Certified Divorce Real Estate Expert (CDRE™) and seasoned Realtor® who specializes in guiding divorcing couples through the emotionally charged process of selling the family home. With neutrality, clarity, an...
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Episode 76
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37:51

Dealing with Insurance in Divorce
Life insurance is often misunderstood in the divorce process—especially in gray divorce. In Episode 75, Andrew breaks down how different types of life insurance play into divorce settlements, spousal support protection, and marital asset divisi...
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Episode 75
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19:22

Mediation is Not for the Weak with Melissa Farag
Andrew is joined by Melissa Farag, a family law mediator, former divorce litigator, and host of the High Vibe Divorce podcast. A recovering litigator turned compassionate conflict-resolution guide, Melissa brings a transformative approach to di...
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Episode 74
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31:59

Dealing with Annuities in Divorce: What You Need to Know
In this episode, Andrew breaks down the complexities of annuities in divorce—one of the most misunderstood and often mishandled assets in marital separation. Whether you’re receiving or dividing annuities, understanding how they’re taxed, value...
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Episode 73
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17:12

A Values-Based Approach to Divorce with Hirsch Serman CPA, CDFA
Andrew is joined by Hirsch Serman, a Certified Divorce Financial Analyst®, CPA, and trained mediator. Hirsch helps navigate the complex financial terrain of divorce with a values-based approach, empowering clients to take control of their finan...
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Episode 72
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33:09

The "F" Word in Divorce - It's Not Fair
In this solo episode, Andrew takes on the “F” word in divorce—and no, it’s not the one you think. While many professionals warn against using the word “fair,” Andrew digs deeper into another emotional force that holds even more power over midli...
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Episode 71
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17:38

From Chemist to Coach: Helping Men Navigate Divorce with James Traub
Andrew is joined by Certified Divorce Coach® James Traub. James helps men (and women) navigate the divorce process with clarity, emotional resilience, and purpose—especially those in midlife facing the complex realities of separation, identity ...
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Episode 70
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30:18

Dealing with the Family Home in Gray Divorce
In this episode of The Gray Divorce Podcast, Andrew tackles one of the most emotional and financially complex aspects of late-life divorce, the fate of the family home. From affordability to emotional attachment to tax implications, this episod...
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Episode 69
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15:04

Strengthening Your Mindset for Growth with Nicole Comis
Andrew is joined by Certified life and mindset coach Nicole Comis. Nicole partners with her clients to break through unconscious patterns, strengthen their mindset, and build the clarity, confidence, and courage to go after what they truly want...
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Episode 68
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41:00

Gray Divorce meets Silver Divorce with Lisa McCluskey
Andrew chats with Lisa McCluskey, host of The Silver Divorce Podcast, who talks about her personal journey through divorce after retirement and how it inspired her to launch a platform to support others navigating mid-to-late life divorce. ...
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Episode 67
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36:00

Stock Market Volatility and a Free Book Offer!
Andrew dives into the recent volatility we’ve seen in the stock market—and how that kind of financial uncertainty can affect those of you going through mid-late-life divorce. He also announces a drawing for a free copy of the new book Divorce A...
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Episode 66
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16:17

Horses and Divorces with Kim Smith, LMFT
How can horses help you get through divorce? Learn all about equine facilitated therapy in my chat with Kim Smith LMFT. We discuss examples of the incredible impact horses can have in treating emotional issues.
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Episode 65
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29:57

Retirement is an Inside Job with Suzanne Campi
Divorce represents a major life transition, and when it coincides with retirement, it presents unique challenges and opportunities. In this episode, Andrew sits down with life transitions coach Suzanne Campi to discuss how to navigate retiremen...
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Episode 64
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34:35

The Book on Amicable Divorce with Tracy Ann Moore - Grant
Tracy Ann Moore Grant, founder of the amicable divorce network, returns to the podcast to talk about the publication of her new book Divorce Amicably: Your Roadmap to Resolution.
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Episode 63
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27:53

International Divorce with Chloe O
Divorce can be difficult enough in the simplest of situations. But imagine that you live overseas, and you've decided to get divorced. Imagine the added stress of dealing with divorce in a different culture with a different language and differe...
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Episode 62
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28:32

Dating after Gray Divorce with Bela Ghandi
In a special Valentine's Day episode of The Gray Divorce Podcast, Andrew interviews nationally acclaimed dating coach Bela Gandhi. Bela discusses the work she does with gray divorcees, coaching them through the dating process.
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Episode 61
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36:35

When to Say No - Setting Boundaries in Divorce with Tracy Gould Sheinin
Do you know when to say no? Are you a people pleaser who would rather defer to someone else's wishes just to get along? In this episode Andrew talks to Tracy Gould Sheinin, a specialist on setting boundaries. Andrew and Tracy dig into the impor...
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Episode 60
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35:31

Blue Zones, Ikigai and a Long, Happy Life
What can a small town called Ogimi on the north end of Okinawa in Japan teach us about living a happy life after gray divorce? What can a mountain village in Sardinia teach us about staying fit? In episode 59 of The Gray Divorce Podcast, Divorc...
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Episode 59
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22:27

The Mediation Experience with Attorney Amber Robinson
In this episode Andrew discusses the inner workings of a mediation session with family law attorney Amber Robinson. Having served as a financial neutral mediator in several mediations with Amber and her clients and other attorneys and their cli...
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Episode 58
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42:20

Dealing with Family and the Holidays with Kathleen Shack, LMFT
Andrew chats with Kathleen Shack, a marriage and family therapist and divorce coach. They discuss the unique challenges of dealing with gray divorce and families over the holidays.
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Episode 57
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26:42

Why You Need a Divorce CFO
In episode 56 of The Gray Divorce Podcast, Andrew discusses the role of the Divorce Chief Financial Officer (or Divorce CFO) in your divorce. While divorce may be a legal process, it’s really about money. Listen to the podcast and find out why ...
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Episode 56
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21:30

Married to the Mortgage with Jennifer Brown, CDLP®
Andrew chats with Jennifer Brown, a Certified Divorce Lending Professional. They discuss the various mortgage financing options available to divorcing couples, including potential mortgage assumptions.
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Episode 55
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38:03

The Danger of Free Time - Retirement and Gray Divorce with Marianne Oehser
Andrew chats with Marianne Oehser, a Certified Retirement and Relationship Coach. They discuss the link between retirement and late life divorce and the danger that an unstructured, poorly planned retirement can have on a marriage.
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Episode 54
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34:31
